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Monday, September 3rd, 2012

Subject:I love this book!
Posted by:doylerseyes.
Time:5:30 pm.
Hello there.  Firstly let me Introduce myself, I'm Joe, from England, and I had the pleasure of reading this book over the summer and have since been trying to convince everyone I know to pick up a copy and read it for themselves.

I realise that I'm rather late to the game in discovering this forum and chances are not many (if any) will come across this post and read it, but I wanted to begin by saying a huge thank you to all who have posted their reactions, thoughts and insights about the novel.  When you have read something that moves you so profoundly it is wonderful to discover others who feel the same.  

I have little else to add really to what has already been said before by other posters, except to say that for me the book showed what the world can be when we see it through the eyes of love.  In so doing it reminded me to reconnect with the love  I have in my own life and to see the world through the fortunate window of one who is happily loving and loved in kind... (yes sickening I know :-) )

I know some people have posted suggestion of songs to accompany the novel, I'd like to if I may add one of my own.  It is called 'Like Lovers Do' by an artist named Heather Nova.  Here is the link should anybody be interested:


Okay that is all.  I have been typing this on my IPad and am notorious for making typos on it, so apologise for any errors in advance!
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Wednesday, June 20th, 2012

Subject:What cheer, ehh?
Posted by:foxman33.
Time:1:46 am.
I'll do my best to give a short introduction and hope that someone somewhere is still monitoring the community postings so I can have a chat about this amazing story.

I see that it's been quite some time since anyone posted to this community.  Still, I was glad to see that people are still enjoying the book more than ten years after its initial publishing - I find so few folks that have even read it at all, but all of them rave about it, gay or straight, man or woman.  And rightly so, for it is a true literary gem to be enjoyed, no matter your perspective.

I find myself re-reading this book tonight for the sixth or seventh time - I was introduced to it back in my college years and I try to read it cover to cover once a year.  It gets better with every read-through of course; the really astounding thing about it is that I feel that it is truly a living, breathing thing that grows along with me, with me informing the story as much as it informs me.  Every time I re-read I catch something clever or nuanced that makes me chuckle that slipped past the nets before.  And of course that ending gets me every time, particularly the scene where Doyler walks away for the second time in Jim's dream and Jim says, "You'll be walking away from me now, won't you?  I do hate it when you walk away." or something to that effect.  Kills me, even after years of reading it.

I was wondering if anyone has their most meaningful/funny quotes?  I see a lot being recycled, and I unfortunately don't have my copy right this second.  But the Mugglins scene where Doyler suggests that they hang up their washing on their "stands"?  Still makes me chuckle.
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Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011

Posted by:midnightcolor.
Time:6:13 pm.
After finishing At Swim, I had drawn a scene from the book.

It was when Doyler returned to visit Jim and they shared a bed at night.

Although Jim's part of the quote was in the third person, I changed it to first person to have him say it.

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Sunday, May 15th, 2011

Subject:in between the sea and a dark place [3/3]
Posted by:canadino.
Time:10:59 pm.

Last part! And finally, some "sex" and need for quotes because my M scenes are TAME.

Title: in between the sea and a dark place
Warnings: long!fic, language, sex [NSFW]
Summary: In this life, things are different.

Their next swim class is conducted in complete silence.

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Friday, May 13th, 2011

Subject:[fic] in between the sea and a dark place
Posted by:canadino.
Time:10:15 am.
Hey! I recently embarked on writing a reincarnation!fic for At Swim, Two Boys and I must say, it's both the longest and most time-consuming fic I have ever worked on. This fic takes place in present day, although all characters were 'reincarnated' in some way. I...may have altered MacMurrough's personality a bit, though to be honest I never really liked him so maybe that's why.

Title: in between the sea and a dark place
Pairings: Doyler/Jim, onesided!Doyler/MacMurrough/Jim
Warnings: long!fic, sex [NSFW], angst
Summary: In this life, things are different.

part: one, two,
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Monday, July 19th, 2010

Subject:fic: vest pocket kodak
Posted by:juliandahling.
Time:9:02 am.
Title: Vest Pocket Kodak
Author: [personal profile] juliandarling | juliandahling
Fandom: At Swim, Two Boys
Pairing(s): Anthony MacMurrough/OMC, (MacMurrough/Jim Mack/Doyler Doyle)
Rating: NC17
He took the camera with him to the sea wall, near the Forty Foot, and took photograph after photograph of the white-crested waves, as if Jim Mack might appear, a pale smear of flesh in the hapless sea.

Warnings: Underage characters committing lewd acts, implied clergy abuse, language, unresolved sexual tension, multiple personalities.
Disclaimer: Not mine!
Word Count: 821
Beta: [personal profile] la_dissonance
Author's Notes: I think I might be the only person to ever write fanfiction based on this novel?[ EDIT: Such lies. Look at this: fortyfoot ] This means ya'll should come to my one-person fandom. I don't think that you have to read the book to understand the fic, but by all means, read the sodding book. It's brilliant, and I stayed up all night reading it. Here is a good version of Siúil a Rúin, but if you're looking for a more modern version, Celtic Woman is always awesome. This is the camera. Did my best to be historically accurate and all that love jazz, but I allow for mistakes and appreciate constructive criticism. Thanks to [personal profile] la_dissonance, my awesome beta and friend. All remaining mistakes are my fault.

fake cut to my journal
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Monday, May 24th, 2010

Subject:Community Reread: Chapter Three
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:10:42 pm.
Community Reread: Chapter Three



To be done yet.


I want to apologize that I'm letting things drag around here! School and finishing my own novel are keeping me extremely busy right now, but I'll catch up again, promise! Still going to get the synopsis done. (Or if anyone wants to do it, feel free to. You don't have to wait for me to make the official post either, just go ahead yourself if I happen to be late.)

I hope to be able to participate more. Again, sorry folks :(

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Sunday, May 16th, 2010

Subject:Community Reread: Chapter Two
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:9:16 pm.
Community Reread: Chapter Two



To be done yet.


I thought since everyone seems to be quite busy, we'll perhaps take it one chapter at a time...? I know I am very busy right now (which I don't like) so I don't think I'd manage more than one chapter this week, at least not with writing down quotes, questions etc :( Makes me sad!

Also, as was suggested, only one post now. It'd be good if you typed up some of your favourite quotes, I thought I could collect them in one big post later on :) That'd make it easy to have an index of everyone's favourite bits.

I'll add the synopsis once I've made it through the chapter, sadly homework is keeping me very busy tonight. Enjoy the reading!
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Tuesday, January 1st, 2002

Subject:Comprehension Questions: Prologue & Chapter One
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:1:13 am.
Comprehension Questions: Prologue & Chapter One

And last but not least, the place to post all questions concerning words, phrases and contextual unclarities.

I'll get my list of words (and there's still a few left even after googling) done tomorrow :) Happy reading!
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Monday, May 10th, 2010

Subject:Community Reread: Prologue & Chapter 1 - Quotes
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:6:01 pm.
Favourite Quotes: Prologue & Chapter One

This is the place to collect all our favourite lines and words, goodness knows there's enough beautiful ones in this book!

Page numbers would be nice, as well as mentioning whether it's the American hardback or British paperback edition.
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Subject:Community Reread: Prologue & Chapter 1
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:4:07 pm.
So, seeing that it's Monday afternoon here in Germany now, I thought I might just as well officially start the Community Reread!

On today: the prologue and chapter one. My page numbers are the British paperback, but feel free to supply me with the American numbers!

Community Reread: Prologue & Chapter One


Prologue (3-5)

We get to know Mr Mack through Mr Doyle's eyes.

Chapter One (7-31)

7-25: We follow Mr Mack through two scenes as he buys a newspaper on his way to deliver socks to Eva MacMurrough's house. He meets his old army pal Mr Doyle and we learn that things have apparently been better for Mr Doyle. On we go, we meet Nancy (and encounter the Aldershot riddle), learn that Mr Mack's son Gordon is away in the army and then see Macks' shop which, despite Mr Mack's aspirations, seems not to run well. We also get to know Aunt Sawney and see that it is Jim's birthday.

25-31: Eva MacMurrough arrives at her house.


I'm going to make another post for collecting favourite quotes and one for questions concerning general understanding, like words that are not clear or something. (Goodness knows I've got a lot of the latter!) Feel free to discuss the chapter in general here and to make as many posts for longer discussions as you want to :)

This is the first time I'm ever doing something like this and of course it's a community activity so if I'm doing something bad, I'm open for suggestions anytime! Hope you enjoy your reread.

One thing I have to say straight away is that I'm absolutely flattened by the sheer amount of things that I didn't pick up on or didn't understand the first time around. And when I do a third reread one day, I'm sure I'll discover just as much again! What an amazing book, Jamie O'Neill.

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Sunday, May 2nd, 2010

Subject:It's time for some art.
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:2:41 am.
I was browsing through my art history folder and rediscovered one of my favourite paintings - and that I still didn't know the artist. Seeing that it's absolutely perfect for ASTB, I did some research and dug up some more pictures by the same artist: Henry Scott Tuke, an English Impressionist painter. Reading his biography, I was really amazed how well he fits with ASTB!

For starters, this is the picture that put me on his track:

Noonday Heat, 1911

Do I need to say anything?

Click here for some info and many, many pretty pictures.Collapse )
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Tuesday, January 1st, 2002

Subject:How about some community activity?
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:11:16 pm.
It's me again :D This community is much less dead than it looked at first, so how about we have a community activity? I was thinking of two things mainly:

1) A community reread. As in, we will reread the book together chapter by chapter, perhaps weekly? And then discuss the chapter, collect favourite quotes and ominous words (and provide some Irish slang explanations for foreigners like me XD), things you like and dislike, perhaps some questions can be answered (I know I'm going to have a lot of questions to ask still), fanart/fanfic be created/shared, matching music be suggested, historical facts looked at, such things. I'd sure love that - would anyone be game for something like that?

2) This is a bit more obscure. Has anyone here heard of tvtropes.org? It's basically a huge database on common plot devices, character design elements, etc in literature, film, comic, history even. I love it and am a bit disappointed that there's no page for ASTB on there yet. I'm not sure, however, if I'm fit for it on my own. Would anyone like to take a look at the site and perhaps help me contributing?

Oh my, I'm so obsessed with this fandom right now. It's so tiny, but so awesome <3 Not to mention that the book itself is of course breathtaking. I just need to vent some of my insanely great love for this story.

EDIT: Okay, I remembered to maybe post a warning here: TV Tropes is addictive. I mean it. I've got sucked into it for hours before, so be aware ;P

So far we're seven people. Weeeeh! So exciting!

And I propose a date to start: 10th of May. Would that be convenient? Or would you rather have a day other than Monday to start reading the next chapter each week?
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Friday, April 30th, 2010

Subject:A Sketch <3
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:1:29 am.
Seeing that people here are keeping me up (I have to get up in four hours for school, but right now I just can't leave the computer, so...) I whipped out my sketchbook and made a tiny little rough sketch of Jim and Doyler. Nothing fancy, but one day I'll get up to something substantial, promise!

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Thursday, April 29th, 2010

Subject:A question on Jim and McMurrough
Posted by:kjesta.
Time:10:33 pm.
Hiya there,

I just finished ASTB. Reading it was a real challenge at first because my native language is German and I had a hard time with the language of the book, but I got used to it and loved it. I can already quote whole passages! And I'm determined now to read up on the historical events involved because I don't know much about 1915/16, as I have to confess.

I don't think I need to tell anyone here how amazing this book is. I cried all the way through the last dozen pages, just - just - guh, words fail me.

However, I do have a question on something: did Jim actually sleep with McMurrough when he stayed at Eva's house and undressed for him? I thought at first that he did, but didn't he tell Doyler that he never did anything with McMurrough? I'm a bit confused, which is probably to blame on the language barrier.

Anyway, I think I'll have to whip out my watercolours once I've got a bit of time to breathe again and then get some fanart going.
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Monday, March 8th, 2010

Subject:From Naples
Posted by:na1010.
Time:4:39 pm.
Hello! I'm new to this forum and from Naples, Italy.
I finished *At Swim, Two Boys* two weeks ago. I started my second reading three days ago with the aim of a deeper and fuller understanding. I reached page 97 with many notes on the margins and 8 pages of longer notes (a few from JO'N himself and this forum, many googling, the rest by myself).
No book since Mary Renault's *The Charioteer* moved me so. I believe I will have Doyle, Jim and McMurrough in my heart and mind in the same way I lived years with Ralph and Laurie and still often think of them.
As I translated in Italian *The Charioteer* (still unpublished) I had great (I should say indispensable) help from the community 'maryrenaultfics' on Livejournal. So I started reading the entries at the 'fortyfoot' community, and many were of great help.
The passage at the top of page 97 (Scribner HC 2001) is telling and compelling. It closes with three lines of dialogue: ‘Are we straight so?’ - ‘Aye we're straight,’ said Jim. - ‘Straight as a rush, so we are.’ that, with the other two key phrases, is a leitmotiv of the novel. This time though Jim seems to catch its deep meaning (brotherhood, loyalty, fidelity, etc). In the preceding lines, in the description of what Jim physically feels when touched by Doyler, another essential theme of the novel (‘You're my country') is revealed in a very poetic form: Jim discovers that it's Doyler who founds his physical and spiritual identity.
86 years divide the setting of the novel (1915) from its publication date (2001) and in the meanwhile our perception of the meaning of the word ‘straight' has changed. When reading these lines we acquire simultaneously two meanings, conflicting in the chronology of use, and the outcome is paradoxical, moving and ideologically striking. I deem the resulting message is: the gender of the object of my sexual drive is immaterial to the founding of my identity.
On a much more personal front, I wonder: what's so important about the limping of a main character? why in the two novels that moved me more in the last twelve years one of the main characters limps: Laurie in *The Charioteer* and Doyler in AS,TB? Is a debility a metaphor of something else? In *The Charioteer* though Ralph, the other hero, has a debility too, Jim and McM here have not.
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2010

Posted by:die_gruene_fee.
Time:5:48 pm.
It's me again - I spent the academic year 2008/9 in Dublin, and I thought some of the photos I took might be interesting. Enjoy!

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Thursday, December 31st, 2009

Subject:Jamie O'Neill Interview
Posted by:die_gruene_fee.
Time:6:57 pm.
Mood: excited.
There's a great interview with Mr O'Neill on Open Loop Press. He even reads a bit from the unpublished sequel (yes, apparently it does exist). (Transcript here)

Enjoy, and Happy New Year!
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Saturday, October 17th, 2009

Subject:Newbie with song recommendation
Posted by:tortoiselover8.
Time:8:00 pm.

Hi everyone!

I finished the book a really long time ago, after reading it in pieces over the course of a few months (January-June, I think?). Anyways, I was in Germany this summer on an exchange program. Everyday on the bus on the way to school, I would listen to my iPod. I came across a song that I thought really worked for Jim and Doyler:


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